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Victorino

Postby linkinpaak » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:05 am

Does his value go up with Kemp, Ethier, and Hanley hitting behind him?
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Re: Victorino

Postby microwave donut » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:09 am

Not really. Lineup may be slightly better but the park is worse
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Re: Victorino

Postby Men-in-Cleats » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:50 am

Not really. Lineup may be slightly better but the park is worse
That hasn't stopped them from racking up the RBI's. I'd say he'll hit fewer out of the park than he did but hitting near the top of that order would certainly help his run production and give him more opportunities to run.
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Re: Victorino

Postby linkinpaak » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:10 am

That hasn't stopped them from racking up the RBI's. I'd say he'll hit fewer out of the park than he did but hitting near the top of that order would certainly help his run production and give him more opportunities to run.
That was more along the lines of what I was thinking. I don't think the reason you're owning Victorino is for his power but a slightly drop-off wouldn't be surprising. If he hits lead-off he'll probably have the chance to steal more bases, if he hits second he should see a major increase in runs scored.
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RB - C.J. Spiller
RB - Vick Ballard
WR - A.J. Green
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Chris Givens
TE - Greg Olsen
Flex - Matthew Stafford
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K - Justin Tucker
BN - Darren McFadden
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Re: Victorino

Postby microwave donut » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:24 pm

The Phillies have scored more runs than the Dodgers this year and Victorino already hits at the top of the lineup (2nd mostly).

Maybe a few more steals hitting leadoff (probably will hit 1st) but I don't see a major bump anywhere unless he gets on base more, which would help no matter where he is.
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Re: Victorino

Postby Men-in-Cleats » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:33 pm

The Phillies have scored more runs than the Dodgers this year and Victorino already hits at the top of the lineup (2nd mostly).

Maybe a few more steals hitting leadoff (probably will hit 1st) but I don't see a major bump anywhere unless he gets on base more, which would help no matter where he is.
Dodgers are an entirely different lineup with Kemp and Ethier both in the lineup and even better with Hanley in there as well. Even in a down year he's put up far better numbers than anyone else they've hit in the #5 spot. Kemp missed half the season thus far so comparing what they've put on the field for most of the last two months is futile. Not to mention the fact that having a 0.280 OBP guy in your leadoff spot for much of that time will reduce opportunities as well and Ethier was still one of the league leaders in RBI's before he got hurt.
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Re: Victorino

Postby microwave donut » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:21 pm

The Phillies have scored more runs than the Dodgers this year and Victorino already hits at the top of the lineup (2nd mostly).

Maybe a few more steals hitting leadoff (probably will hit 1st) but I don't see a major bump anywhere unless he gets on base more, which would help no matter where he is.
Dodgers are an entirely different lineup with Kemp and Ethier both in the lineup and even better with Hanley in there as well. Even in a down year he's put up far better numbers than anyone else they've hit in the #5 spot. Kemp missed half the season thus far so comparing what they've put on the field for most of the last two months is futile. Not to mention the fact that having a 0.280 OBP guy in your leadoff spot for much of that time will reduce opportunities as well and Ethier was still one of the league leaders in RBI's before he got hurt.
Phillies have been w/o Howard and Utley. Also Ruiz > Ethier this season. We shall see, Victorino might be awesome in LA. I don't think he'll do bad, just the same.

And oh yeah, fuck the dodgers

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