Andrew Bailey

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Andrew Bailey

Postby M.D. » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:35 am

Alright guys, i got some decisions to make and would love some opinions. I've decided to trade Andrew Bailey, as i feel his value is at an all time high. Here's the offers i have gotten, with the players involved, and their salary/contract info.

Trade #1

I give:
Andrew Bailey $16 (can keep for 2 years at same price)
JP Arencibia $2 (he would be $2 this year and $12 the next 2 years - total of 3 years)

I get:
David Price $11 (this year only)
Dustin Pedroia $21 (this year only)
Jarrod Parker $4 (3 years)

Trade #2
I give:
Andrew Bailey $16 (2 years)
Carlos Santana $2 (he would be $2 this year and $12 the next 2 years - total of 3 years)
Sean Rodriguez $6 (3 years)

I get:
Eric Hosmer $5 (he would be $5 for this year and next, then i can keep him for 3 more years at $20)
Mike Moustakas $5 (he would be $5 for this year and next, then i can keep him for 3 more years at $20)
Jason Kipnis $10 (he would be $5 for this year and next, then i can keep him for 2 more years at $20)

I guess the decision is, do i want to go ALL in for this year and go for trade #1, or do i want to get some great players and still be set for next year and beyond with trade #2. As you can see in my signature, I have a pretty strong team already. I would love to get Price, but it just kills me that his contract expires this year (as well as Pedroia's).

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?

If you leave me a reply, leave a link for your post and i'll give you my best thoughts on your dilemma.

Thanks

Dope man.
5x5 Dynasty Auction Keeper League Roto scoring
15 kept, $260 cap. 2 minor league

2012 AL only:
C - Salvador Perez $4
C - Carlos Santana $2
1B - Eric Hosmer $5
2B - Jason Kipnis $10
3B - Adrian Beltre $15
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera $17
MI - Eduardo Nunez $10
CI - Mike Moustakaas $5
OF - Mike Carp $10
OF - Jose Bautista $20
OF - Lorenzo Cain $1

P - Derek Holland $9
P - Brandon League $10
P - Alexi Ogando $10
P - Michael Pineda $17


2012 NL only:
C - Tim Federowics $1
1B - Joey Votto $20
3B - James Darnell $1
SS - Troy Tulowitzki $17
CI - Martin Prado $15
OF - Roger Bernadina $4
OF - Jason Bourgeous $4
OF - Matt Holiday $20

P - Rubby De La Rosa $10
P - Jaime Garcia $1
P - Gio Gonzalez $16
P - Javy Guerra $10
P - Joel Hanrahan $10
P - Clayton Kershaw $15
P - Cory Luebke - $4

Minors: Shelby Miller, Casey Kelly

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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby Grey » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:45 am

Price trade.
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If you want me to look at your team, post the team. Don't post a link to another site where the team is.
Have you given me all the info I need to judge your team? The number of teams in the league is a good start for the big overall questions.
Is your league H2H? Roto?
I don't know who's on your waivers. Don't just ask me who you should pick up. Give me names to choose from.
If you only have one team, post your team in your signature with the league parameters.
I don't know every single matchup for next week, so if you want me to choose a player for the following week and you think the matchups are important, tell me who they're facing.
There's more than one player with the same last name? Then spell out who you're talking about.
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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby M.D. » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:58 am

Ha i already now your opinion grand master grey... I'm just struggling with it. i always tend to like the young cheap players.
5x5 Dynasty Auction Keeper League Roto scoring
15 kept, $260 cap. 2 minor league

2012 AL only:
C - Salvador Perez $4
C - Carlos Santana $2
1B - Eric Hosmer $5
2B - Jason Kipnis $10
3B - Adrian Beltre $15
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera $17
MI - Eduardo Nunez $10
CI - Mike Moustakaas $5
OF - Mike Carp $10
OF - Jose Bautista $20
OF - Lorenzo Cain $1

P - Derek Holland $9
P - Brandon League $10
P - Alexi Ogando $10
P - Michael Pineda $17


2012 NL only:
C - Tim Federowics $1
1B - Joey Votto $20
3B - James Darnell $1
SS - Troy Tulowitzki $17
CI - Martin Prado $15
OF - Roger Bernadina $4
OF - Jason Bourgeous $4
OF - Matt Holiday $20

P - Rubby De La Rosa $10
P - Jaime Garcia $1
P - Gio Gonzalez $16
P - Javy Guerra $10
P - Joel Hanrahan $10
P - Clayton Kershaw $15
P - Cory Luebke - $4

Minors: Shelby Miller, Casey Kelly

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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby M.D. » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:01 am

Grey, for trade #2, if i was able to keep Santana and throw in Arencibia instead. Would you still take #1, or would this push the tides to #2?
5x5 Dynasty Auction Keeper League Roto scoring
15 kept, $260 cap. 2 minor league

2012 AL only:
C - Salvador Perez $4
C - Carlos Santana $2
1B - Eric Hosmer $5
2B - Jason Kipnis $10
3B - Adrian Beltre $15
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera $17
MI - Eduardo Nunez $10
CI - Mike Moustakaas $5
OF - Mike Carp $10
OF - Jose Bautista $20
OF - Lorenzo Cain $1

P - Derek Holland $9
P - Brandon League $10
P - Alexi Ogando $10
P - Michael Pineda $17


2012 NL only:
C - Tim Federowics $1
1B - Joey Votto $20
3B - James Darnell $1
SS - Troy Tulowitzki $17
CI - Martin Prado $15
OF - Roger Bernadina $4
OF - Jason Bourgeous $4
OF - Matt Holiday $20

P - Rubby De La Rosa $10
P - Jaime Garcia $1
P - Gio Gonzalez $16
P - Javy Guerra $10
P - Joel Hanrahan $10
P - Clayton Kershaw $15
P - Cory Luebke - $4

Minors: Shelby Miller, Casey Kelly

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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby royce! » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:52 am

Sorry, buddy, but I agree with Grey. You'd be moving a closer and low BA catcher for a very high ceiling SP prospect, a top 2B, and a top SP, which is great, even considering that the 2B and SP would not be retained in 2013.

Though if you could swap out Arencibia for Santana in the second trade, I would go for that, because you could move Santana to C and Hosmer to 1B, Moustakas to 3B and Bautista to OF, making a pretty sweet offense for an AL-only.

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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby big o » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:01 pm

my initial reaction was to jump all over the jarrod parker deal ... i like his up-side , BUT , at this point , they are just projections .... still , that alone might be reason enough to divest of bailey and arencibia .

looking deeper ... the addition of price allows you the opportunity to dominate this year (as does pedroia) .

and , unless you're in "re-build" .... take today's win vs tomorrow's .

looking at the 2nd deal :
love hosmer's long-term appeal .
am worried about BOTH moustakas and kipnis , reaching "pedroia" money .
(Good Lord ! that's what you're paying bautista .)

the skeptic in me says that maybe one will , and that the other is going to cost you .
But , you can cross that bridge later .

and , if that's the case , .... that something better may come up , later , .... well , that's all the more reason to win today .

good luck ,
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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby M.D. » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:38 pm

Thanks for the insight fellas. I really appreciate it.

the way the league works is you get to keep a player for 3 years at the originally drafted price. after the third season you have the option of extending the player an additional 3 years for $5 per year (however you have to choose how many years at that point and can not change it after that).

So the player that doesn't pan out, i don't really have to extend at all.

i just like hosmer a lot, as i own votto in my NL league. i knokw what a player that can contribute in all 5 categories does for a team.

I'm gonig to see if i can mess with trade #2 and keep santana. possibly give him nunez and ogando or SROD and Hellickson. (i know grey is down on Hellickson this year).
5x5 Dynasty Auction Keeper League Roto scoring
15 kept, $260 cap. 2 minor league

2012 AL only:
C - Salvador Perez $4
C - Carlos Santana $2
1B - Eric Hosmer $5
2B - Jason Kipnis $10
3B - Adrian Beltre $15
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera $17
MI - Eduardo Nunez $10
CI - Mike Moustakaas $5
OF - Mike Carp $10
OF - Jose Bautista $20
OF - Lorenzo Cain $1

P - Derek Holland $9
P - Brandon League $10
P - Alexi Ogando $10
P - Michael Pineda $17


2012 NL only:
C - Tim Federowics $1
1B - Joey Votto $20
3B - James Darnell $1
SS - Troy Tulowitzki $17
CI - Martin Prado $15
OF - Roger Bernadina $4
OF - Jason Bourgeous $4
OF - Matt Holiday $20

P - Rubby De La Rosa $10
P - Jaime Garcia $1
P - Gio Gonzalez $16
P - Javy Guerra $10
P - Joel Hanrahan $10
P - Clayton Kershaw $15
P - Cory Luebke - $4

Minors: Shelby Miller, Casey Kelly

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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby M.D. » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:52 am

I ended up doing this...

I gave

Bailey, Arencibia and Hellickson

I got:

Hosmer, Moustakas, Kipnis.

I like the trade a lot. I still have one or 2 more moves before the season, but my team is starting to look A LOT better.

thanks for the insight guys. I'm going to try to put together a package to get David Price now.
5x5 Dynasty Auction Keeper League Roto scoring
15 kept, $260 cap. 2 minor league

2012 AL only:
C - Salvador Perez $4
C - Carlos Santana $2
1B - Eric Hosmer $5
2B - Jason Kipnis $10
3B - Adrian Beltre $15
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera $17
MI - Eduardo Nunez $10
CI - Mike Moustakaas $5
OF - Mike Carp $10
OF - Jose Bautista $20
OF - Lorenzo Cain $1

P - Derek Holland $9
P - Brandon League $10
P - Alexi Ogando $10
P - Michael Pineda $17


2012 NL only:
C - Tim Federowics $1
1B - Joey Votto $20
3B - James Darnell $1
SS - Troy Tulowitzki $17
CI - Martin Prado $15
OF - Roger Bernadina $4
OF - Jason Bourgeous $4
OF - Matt Holiday $20

P - Rubby De La Rosa $10
P - Jaime Garcia $1
P - Gio Gonzalez $16
P - Javy Guerra $10
P - Joel Hanrahan $10
P - Clayton Kershaw $15
P - Cory Luebke - $4

Minors: Shelby Miller, Casey Kelly

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Re: Andrew Bailey

Postby M.D. » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:28 pm

Trade talks on Price aren't going well...

But I was able to trade Sean Rodriguez for Lorenzo Cain (last year of his contract $1). Today.

I like it, as i didn't want to keep SROD in my DH slot (too many MI's), and with the shallow OF this year, i wanted to get another player so i only had to draft 2 (5 OF league).
5x5 Dynasty Auction Keeper League Roto scoring
15 kept, $260 cap. 2 minor league

2012 AL only:
C - Salvador Perez $4
C - Carlos Santana $2
1B - Eric Hosmer $5
2B - Jason Kipnis $10
3B - Adrian Beltre $15
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera $17
MI - Eduardo Nunez $10
CI - Mike Moustakaas $5
OF - Mike Carp $10
OF - Jose Bautista $20
OF - Lorenzo Cain $1

P - Derek Holland $9
P - Brandon League $10
P - Alexi Ogando $10
P - Michael Pineda $17


2012 NL only:
C - Tim Federowics $1
1B - Joey Votto $20
3B - James Darnell $1
SS - Troy Tulowitzki $17
CI - Martin Prado $15
OF - Roger Bernadina $4
OF - Jason Bourgeous $4
OF - Matt Holiday $20

P - Rubby De La Rosa $10
P - Jaime Garcia $1
P - Gio Gonzalez $16
P - Javy Guerra $10
P - Joel Hanrahan $10
P - Clayton Kershaw $15
P - Cory Luebke - $4

Minors: Shelby Miller, Casey Kelly


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