drop Johan?

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drop Johan?

Postby Beardawg » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:38 pm

he's killing me! I'm in a shallow league (9 teams), and could stream: Meyers, Travis Wood, Dickey, Medlen, Dice-K, Leake, Zimmerman, Hammel, V. Padilla, Garland, Anibal, Cecil, Braden, Kennedy, Niese, Daniel Hudson . . .

I've tried desparately, and nobody will trade for Johan (auction keeper league, and his price is too high).

thx
10 team, keep 9 at auction $, 6x6 OPS,HLD

C - W. Ramos
1 - M. Cabrera
2 - A. Mondessi
S - T. Story
3 - N. Arenado
CI - L. Voit
MI - M. Machado
O - C. Yelich
O - M. Brantley
O - J. Upton
O - A. Meadows
U - G. Hampson
BN - Franmil Reyes
BN - N. Senzel
BN - J. Bauers

SP - C. Carrasco
SP - M. Mikolas
SP - H. Ryu
SP - S. Matz
SP - M. Harvey
SP - M. Strahm

RP - A. Miller
RP - S. Doolittle
RP - J. Hader
RP - S. Dominguez
RP - R. Presley
RP - C. Devenski
RP - T. Rogers
RP - D. Castillo
RP - D. Betances

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Re: drop Johan?

Postby Beardawg » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:52 pm

for the record, my other SP are: Halladay, Lilly, Buchholz, Billingsly, and Jamie Garcia
10 team, keep 9 at auction $, 6x6 OPS,HLD

C - W. Ramos
1 - M. Cabrera
2 - A. Mondessi
S - T. Story
3 - N. Arenado
CI - L. Voit
MI - M. Machado
O - C. Yelich
O - M. Brantley
O - J. Upton
O - A. Meadows
U - G. Hampson
BN - Franmil Reyes
BN - N. Senzel
BN - J. Bauers

SP - C. Carrasco
SP - M. Mikolas
SP - H. Ryu
SP - S. Matz
SP - M. Harvey
SP - M. Strahm

RP - A. Miller
RP - S. Doolittle
RP - J. Hader
RP - S. Dominguez
RP - R. Presley
RP - C. Devenski
RP - T. Rogers
RP - D. Castillo
RP - D. Betances

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Re: drop Johan?

Postby jewtangclan03 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:07 pm

I would not recommend dropping your 2nd best pitcher. Johan shouldn't even be dropped in 1 team leagues.
11 team roto league, traditional 5X5 categories, 1525 inning max

C d'Arnaud
1B Santana
2B Cano
SS Segura (K)
3B Machado
IF Shaw
OF J.D. Martinez
OF Cruz
OF Rosario
Util C.Taylor
Util M.Taylor
BN A. Rosario
BN T. Anderson
BN H. Ramirez

SP Verlander (K)
SP Wood (K)
SP Greinke
SP Gausman
SP G. Gonzalez
RP Knebel (K)
RP Familia
RP Herrera
RP Rodney
BN Porcello
BN Harvey
BN Matz

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Re: drop Johan?

Postby Beardawg » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:17 pm

he's got the resume; but Myers, Wood, Padilla, and Dickey, are seriously outperforming him. You're probably right. He just makes me so mad.
10 team, keep 9 at auction $, 6x6 OPS,HLD

C - W. Ramos
1 - M. Cabrera
2 - A. Mondessi
S - T. Story
3 - N. Arenado
CI - L. Voit
MI - M. Machado
O - C. Yelich
O - M. Brantley
O - J. Upton
O - A. Meadows
U - G. Hampson
BN - Franmil Reyes
BN - N. Senzel
BN - J. Bauers

SP - C. Carrasco
SP - M. Mikolas
SP - H. Ryu
SP - S. Matz
SP - M. Harvey
SP - M. Strahm

RP - A. Miller
RP - S. Doolittle
RP - J. Hader
RP - S. Dominguez
RP - R. Presley
RP - C. Devenski
RP - T. Rogers
RP - D. Castillo
RP - D. Betances

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Re: drop Johan?

Postby jewtangclan03 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:29 pm

Santana isn't the same guy he was in the 2000's, as he has clearly lost quite a bit of velocity on his pitches. But you're not kicking a 3.2 ERA/1.25 WHIP pitcher with decent Ks out of bed. In addition, he has historically been at his best in August and September.

Of the free agent pitchers you listed, I would only trust Myers. And I'd find somebody other than Johan to drop in order to get him.
11 team roto league, traditional 5X5 categories, 1525 inning max

C d'Arnaud
1B Santana
2B Cano
SS Segura (K)
3B Machado
IF Shaw
OF J.D. Martinez
OF Cruz
OF Rosario
Util C.Taylor
Util M.Taylor
BN A. Rosario
BN T. Anderson
BN H. Ramirez

SP Verlander (K)
SP Wood (K)
SP Greinke
SP Gausman
SP G. Gonzalez
RP Knebel (K)
RP Familia
RP Herrera
RP Rodney
BN Porcello
BN Harvey
BN Matz

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Re: drop Johan?

Postby PollardsVision » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:45 pm

Johan clearly isn't the same (an 88 MPH heater makes that change-up alot less scary), but I couldn't see dropping him outside of a very odd situation (maybe if you're way behind on IP, streaming is the only option, and the added points would help win a league).

If you must stream, you don't really have a clear SP option to drop, so I'd try hard to find a batter to drop.

As a Johan owner, I'm just excited to see him get 11 Ks (though it's hard to get excited about a pitcher who doesn't seem to have any confidence in his fastball).
10 team 5x5 ROTO (OBP), 11-player keeper, C/1B/2B/3B/SS/MI/CI/IF/5OF/UTIL/8SP/3RP

C: Castro, Montero
1B: Rizzo, Adams, Lind
2B: Kinsler, Kipnis
3B: M.Cabrera, Frazier, Reynolds
SS: Alcides
OF: Stanton, Trumbo, Choo, Marte, Rasmus, Blackmon, Bradley Jr.

SP: Gio, Scherzer, Ryu, Cashner, Kuroda, Lackey, Minor, Wood, Peralta
RP: Balfour, Perkins, Nathan, Frieri, Fields

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Re: drop Johan?

Postby daver » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:58 pm

Gotta hold onto Johan


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