Kershaw Trade

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sgsox
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Kershaw Trade

Postby sgsox » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:51 am

Would this trade improve my team? I have been offered:

Starling Marte and Clayton Kershaw
for
Dustin Pedroia, Mat Latos and ,Brett Anderson

my team and league details are in the signature.
16 team, H2H points, 5 keeper league, 10 SP starts per week limit.

Team
BATTERS
C
1B Joey Votto
2B Brian Dozier
3B David Wright
SS Hanley Ramirez
IF Jhonny Peralta
LF Nate McLouth
CF Andrew McCutchen
RF Justin Upton
OF Alex Rios
UTIL Adam Lind

DL Omar Infante
DL Matt Kemp
DL Curtis Granderson

PITCHERS
SP Felix Doubront
SP Justin Verlander
SP Kyle Kendrick
SP Edwin Jackson
SP Joe Blanton
SP Jerome Williams
SP Aaron Harang
SP Scott Kazmir
RP Steve Cishek
RP Rafael Betancourt
RP Chris Perez
RP Jose Veras

Scoring categories:
Batting - Total Bases (1), BB (1), Runs Scored (1), RBI (1), SB (2), Caught Stealing (-1), K (-0.5)
Pitching - IP (3), ER (-2), W (2), L (-2), SV (5), HD (1), K (0.5), Hits Allowed (-1), Walks Issued (-1), QS (3)

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Re: Kershaw Trade

Postby Bourne » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:21 am

No. Your infield needs pedroia and frankly you are trading pedroia for kershaw and then two very good pitchers for Marte. You need a bigger bat than Marte.

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Re: Kershaw Trade

Postby wynams » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:22 am

I agree with Bourn.

Perhaps this deal is doable w/o including Latos, but no way I trade a top 3 2B and an ACE for a 4th/5th OF an ACE and an SP2.

If you really want Kershaw, I would counter with Dustin and Anderson for Marte and Kershaw. If that gets rejected and you still want Kershaw, Dustin and Anderson for Kershaw works just as well (you are still getting the best player in the trade).
12 Team Mixed, H2H Points, Keeper - 2x[DL]
C- JMontero
1B- Votto
2B- Rutledge
3B- Frazier
SS- Lowrie
CI- Encarnacion
MI- Segura
OF- Choo
OF- JUpton
OF- Bourn
OF- Rasmus
OF- Moss
U- Kinsler

SPs: Darvish, Price, Lester, Bailey, Niese, Cahill, Lincecum, Teheran, Nova
RPs: Rodney, Parnell, Perkins, Mujica

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Re: Kershaw Trade

Postby sgsox » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:35 pm

thanks for this guys

what about these trades:

pedey + latos + anderson
for
kershaw+ wmb

verlander + pedey + rios + chen/anderson
for
stanton + wmb + scherzer
16 team, H2H points, 5 keeper league, 10 SP starts per week limit.

Team
BATTERS
C
1B Joey Votto
2B Brian Dozier
3B David Wright
SS Hanley Ramirez
IF Jhonny Peralta
LF Nate McLouth
CF Andrew McCutchen
RF Justin Upton
OF Alex Rios
UTIL Adam Lind

DL Omar Infante
DL Matt Kemp
DL Curtis Granderson

PITCHERS
SP Felix Doubront
SP Justin Verlander
SP Kyle Kendrick
SP Edwin Jackson
SP Joe Blanton
SP Jerome Williams
SP Aaron Harang
SP Scott Kazmir
RP Steve Cishek
RP Rafael Betancourt
RP Chris Perez
RP Jose Veras

Scoring categories:
Batting - Total Bases (1), BB (1), Runs Scored (1), RBI (1), SB (2), Caught Stealing (-1), K (-0.5)
Pitching - IP (3), ER (-2), W (2), L (-2), SV (5), HD (1), K (0.5), Hits Allowed (-1), Walks Issued (-1), QS (3)

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Re: Kershaw Trade

Postby sgsox » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:38 pm

i've further just been offered

verlander + pedey + rios
for
stanton + scherzer + beachy
thanks for this guys

what about these trades:

pedey + latos + anderson
for
kershaw+ wmb

verlander + pedey + rios + chen/anderson
for
stanton + wmb + scherzer
16 team, H2H points, 5 keeper league, 10 SP starts per week limit.

Team
BATTERS
C
1B Joey Votto
2B Brian Dozier
3B David Wright
SS Hanley Ramirez
IF Jhonny Peralta
LF Nate McLouth
CF Andrew McCutchen
RF Justin Upton
OF Alex Rios
UTIL Adam Lind

DL Omar Infante
DL Matt Kemp
DL Curtis Granderson

PITCHERS
SP Felix Doubront
SP Justin Verlander
SP Kyle Kendrick
SP Edwin Jackson
SP Joe Blanton
SP Jerome Williams
SP Aaron Harang
SP Scott Kazmir
RP Steve Cishek
RP Rafael Betancourt
RP Chris Perez
RP Jose Veras

Scoring categories:
Batting - Total Bases (1), BB (1), Runs Scored (1), RBI (1), SB (2), Caught Stealing (-1), K (-0.5)
Pitching - IP (3), ER (-2), W (2), L (-2), SV (5), HD (1), K (0.5), Hits Allowed (-1), Walks Issued (-1), QS (3)

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Re: Kershaw Trade

Postby Bourne » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:58 pm

None of those are close to what was suggested. They all include Pedroia who you can't really afford to move. And Pedey is an awful nickname.

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Re: Kershaw Trade

Postby BluePulaski » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:17 pm

I agree with feedback of others in this post...just some food for thought...

...you only have 5 keepers...in a 16-team league...with 5 keepers...the likes of Verlander, Kershaw have a lot more value than the likes of Anderson, Latos...that being said, so does the value of Pedroia...as 2B and SS are notoriously shallow...

...whatever you do, you need to have a plan...if you end up getting a deal that makes sense, you have to factor in who you will be putting in your 2B slot...you also have to factor in how getting an arm like Kershaw helps you now and later, but also, the ramifications of a pitcher having a major injury are greater than that of a hitter...if a player like Stanton tears his ACL, he can come back...if a pitcher does something to his arm (though Kershaw is as safe as a pitcher can be perhaps) there is a lot more doubt as to whether he comes back the same.

You have one Ace of Aces in Verlander, you don't necessarily need another one...

These look to be your keepers...the only way I'm trading any of these guys, is if I have a combination of 5 keepers with more value...

1B Joey Votto, Cin 1B
2B Dustin Pedroia, Bos 2B I would pnly sell Pedroia if it meant I could land Cano or if I landed a top-5 and had a good backup plan at 2B for the rest of the year
CF Matt Kemp, LAD CF
DL Hanley Ramirez*, LAD 3B, SS
SP Justin Verlander, Det SP

...the rest of your focus should be on making 2for1 deals (preferred) or straight up deals where you are buying low, and selling high, and getting the best player in the deal.
10-team mixed keeper league (15 keepers), H2H - 1 Win R/HR/RBI/SB/AVG/OPS/W/CG/SHO/SV/K/ERA/WHIP/QS
HITTERS:
Lineup (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/LF/CF/RF/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL)
C - empty (will pick up a hot catcher when ready)
1B - E. Hosmer
2B - J. Kipnis
SS - T. Tulowitzki
3B - A. Beltre
OF - M. Trout, A. McCutchen, J. Upton
UTIL - G. Stanton, A. Rizzo, B. Harper, empty slot

PITCHERS: SP - S. Strasburg, A. Wainwright, G. Gonzalez, H. Iwakuma, S. Miller, K. Medlen, H. Ryu, M. Garza, A. Cobb, H. Bailey, R. Porcello, M. Estrada, W. Peralta, S. Gray, E. Ramirez
RP - A. Chapman, A. Reed, J. Benoit
N/A slot: M. Pineda. DL - C. Maybin, M. Moore


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