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john
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Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby john » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:58 pm

Two possible trades...My team is in the signature...

1. I was just offered his Votto/Bourn for my AGon. I probably don't need to do this trade, but I do love me some Votto. Thoughts?


2. This trade hasn't been proposed but I'm thinking about countering with it so how about Votto/Werth for AGon/Bay?
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C Meh
1B Anthony Rizzo (K)
2B Altuve (K)
3B Suarez (K)
SS meh
LF meh
CF Tildaddy Acuna (K)
RF Kyle Tucker
Utl Vladito (K)
BN Bell
BN meh

SP Max Scherzer (K)
SP Tyler Glasnow
SP Brandon Woodruff
RP meh
RP meh
P Max Fried
P Jake Odorizzi
P Zac Gallen
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BN meh
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby jumphook14 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:41 pm

I like that counter but I wonder if he'll go for it.
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby B-rude » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:51 pm

I have Votto and Phillips and i love having them back to back in the lineup. I think Votto will end up having a better year than AGon. I like the counter also. Get Votto.
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby john » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:17 pm

As I pretty much guessed, he rejected the counter offer...

I don't really like or want Bourn but I could possibly trade him for another piece, so should I go with the original offer of Votto/Bourn for my AGon?
12 team H2H (R HR RBI SB TB K OBP x IP W L SV K ERA WHIP) w/ LF RF CF -- keeper league:

C Meh
1B Anthony Rizzo (K)
2B Altuve (K)
3B Suarez (K)
SS meh
LF meh
CF Tildaddy Acuna (K)
RF Kyle Tucker
Utl Vladito (K)
BN Bell
BN meh

SP Max Scherzer (K)
SP Tyler Glasnow
SP Brandon Woodruff
RP meh
RP meh
P Max Fried
P Jake Odorizzi
P Zac Gallen
BN meh
BN meh
BN meh
BN meh
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby chlenko » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:40 pm

If you did that deal I guess you would drop Desmond? I am not crazy about that deal for you.
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby wudaben » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:43 pm

Yeah... I think you hang on to Gonzalez unless the guy dazzles you with an offer because all things equal I'd want Gonzalez. Bourn is floating around the free agent pool in both my 12 team H2H leagues.
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby amscalone » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:44 pm

id maybe try another counter...but i wouldnt do the deal he proposed.
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby john » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:48 pm

Yea, I don't like it much either but was seeing if someone could convince me otherwise. And I don't know if I have anything else that he wants so I guess I'll have to wait until later in the year to grab me some Votto.

Thanks for all the help.
12 team H2H (R HR RBI SB TB K OBP x IP W L SV K ERA WHIP) w/ LF RF CF -- keeper league:

C Meh
1B Anthony Rizzo (K)
2B Altuve (K)
3B Suarez (K)
SS meh
LF meh
CF Tildaddy Acuna (K)
RF Kyle Tucker
Utl Vladito (K)
BN Bell
BN meh

SP Max Scherzer (K)
SP Tyler Glasnow
SP Brandon Woodruff
RP meh
RP meh
P Max Fried
P Jake Odorizzi
P Zac Gallen
BN meh
BN meh
BN meh
BN meh
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby havok » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:12 pm

Guess I'm the odd one out in that I'd take Votto and Bourn for AGon. I think Votto outperforms AGon all by himself and subbing Bourn in for McLouth looks like a good idea to me. Could use some more speed other than Reyes/Wright anyhow.

I'd drop Franklin Morales to make room as you have plenty of closers already.
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Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon

Postby john » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:01 pm

Thanks havok, you've put me back on the fence, haha. I mean I agree Votto is gonna be really good this year and probably the all around better player, but I just haven't decided if I need AGon's little bit of extra power more than I need Votto's other stats. Right now, my team is operating beneath its power threshold and its costing me in my H2H. So, it's a kind of a toss up for me.

Grey, you watching this thread at all?
12 team H2H (R HR RBI SB TB K OBP x IP W L SV K ERA WHIP) w/ LF RF CF -- keeper league:

C Meh
1B Anthony Rizzo (K)
2B Altuve (K)
3B Suarez (K)
SS meh
LF meh
CF Tildaddy Acuna (K)
RF Kyle Tucker
Utl Vladito (K)
BN Bell
BN meh

SP Max Scherzer (K)
SP Tyler Glasnow
SP Brandon Woodruff
RP meh
RP meh
P Max Fried
P Jake Odorizzi
P Zac Gallen
BN meh
BN meh
BN meh
BN meh
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